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Catching
up with Debi Thomas
by Lorenzo Benet
Article
courtesy of International
Figure Skating magazine
April 2006
International
Figure Skating magazine recently caught up with a very busy Debi
Thomas - that's Dr. Debi Thomas - at her Orange County, California
home to discuss injury trends in skating and to reflect on her
own storied career.
Thomas,
a two-time U.S. champion, the 1986 World champion and 1988 Olympic
bronze medalist, recently completed her orthopedic residency program
at Charles R. Drew University in Los Angeles. She will begin a
fellowship later this year at the Dorr Arthritis Institute at
Centinela Hospital in Inglewood, Callf.
A
graduate of Northwestern University Medical School, she will specialize
in knee, hip and joint replacement while shuttling her 8-year-old
son Luc to golf and baseball practice. "He thinks he wants to
be a figure skater but he doesn't get to skate that much - his
mom doesn't have the hours to drive him to the rink," she said
with a laugh. "Come to think of it, my mom didn't have the hours;
I still don't know how she did it."
Thomas
recently celebrated her ninth wedding anniversary with her husband,
Chris Bequette, a financial planner.
Figure
skating Is still a part of this famous athete's life. She recently
traveled to Torino for the Olympic Games as part of a Presidential
Delegation, which was led by U.S. First Lady Laura Bush and included
1976 Olympic champion Dorothy Hamill.
IFS:
Your educational credentials are incredible. When you look back,
how did you manage to go to school and skate competitively?
Thomas:
People say it's impossible - I couldn't believe I did it, but
it's douable and very difficult. I didn't realize until later
on in life that some of the things I waas trying to do that seemed
normal actually weren't. Normal kids don't skate six hours a day
and study in the car. And if you decide to take that route, you
will have to give up a few things. But I don't regret my experiences.
I got to go all over the world and meet all these people. I certainly
didn't mind not going to my high school prom - in fact, most of
my friends say it's the worst night of their lives! But I got
to go to Japan and Europe, and those are the things I got out
of my skating career that helped me later in life. I had to be
an ambassador for my country at a young age and it taught me to
deal with all types of people. In medicine no two patients are
alike; they all come from different walks of life. Those people
skills I leanred in skating provided experiences I can always
use in medicine. I can find things in common with my parents and
it makes them feel better.
IFS:
You have served on sports medicine committees for U.S. Figure
Skating and the United States Olympic Committee. During the 2005-2006
skating season, Michelle Kwan was hurt; Sasha Cohen and Tim Goebel
suffered injuries. Do you think the new rules (and added ice time
required to comply with them) may have something to do with the
rash of injuries?
Thomas:
We used to spend an awful lot of hours on ice when I skated, but
it was mostly for compulsory figures. You are never required to
skate a certain amount of hours each day, in my opinion. I always
felt I didn't have to do every single jump or spin every single
day. As a surgeon, you might see something new but you can still
do the procedure because you have the building blocks to do it.
It's a similar thing in skating. My coach and I diverged on this,
but I felt sometimes you could overpractice.
You
try and fix something that's off and it gets worse. Sometimes
you have to let it go but it comes back. I can't comment on specific
injuries, but maybe it makes more sense to cut those (freestyle)
hours - don't spend four hours a day jumping and pounding your
body - moves and edges are not hurting you. I'm inclined not to
blame newer requirements for the injuries, but I think the lack
of figures is more likely the cause because you feel more obligated
to spend more time jumping and spinning.
IFS:
You were one of the first women to perform a triple jump combination.
How are your hips holding up?
Thomas:
I was fine until I tried to make a comeback in 1996. Luckily not
many people saw it! While trying to take it easy in getting my
jumps back, I was doing a double loop and over rotated and landed
in the splits. I definitely did something to my hip or sacroiliac
joint that resulted in pain every time I tried to take off for
a double axel. I was never able to get any of my triples or my
double axel back after that, though I was pregnant at the time
and did not try to go back to skating after that. Now, it doesn't
really bother me for everyday activities or working out, but I
can stress my hip in certain ways and make it hurt a little.
IFS:
Speaking of jumps, why are men progressing faster than women in
the technical areas?
Thomas:
Obviously, men are pushing limits with the triple combinations
and quads and women have fallen behind. It's not like all women
have a triple axel now and you would think by now that would be
the case based on what we were doing years ago. But it hasn't
turned out like that. Perhaps brute strength allows men to hold
a less perfect jump compared to a woman.
What
is interesting is women haven't pushed the envelope like the men
and yet we're still having all these injuries. I don't know if
it's technique or spending too much time jumping and spinning?
I see these girls struggling with consistency and I'm one of these
psychological skaters - you don't need to do jumps all of the
time but need the mindset to do it. I think more energy could
be put towards sports psychology and it could be better spent
time than jumping and spinning all the time. I don't know how
many hours these athletes are doing these jumps, but if you're
seeing things like arthritis and stress fractures in young people
- something is up.
IFS:
How did you spend your time on the ice?
Thomas:
Of my six hours a day, I did only two hours for freestyle and
four for compulsory figures. I think now you could spend extra
time doing off-ice conditioning, especially for women. Once you're
beyond teen years, women's bodies change and it makes them more
prone to injury and off-ice conditioning can help prevent that.
So listen to your body - if you feel aches and pains, it may be
time to back off.
IFS:
How can younger skaters avoid injury?
Thomas:
I started doing triples at age 10 but my mom was smart and I was
doing weight training and stuff before that. They know now that
training and conditioning can be preventative. When I was 13 it
was okay to do weight training programs and strength training
to compensate for changes in a woman's body. I used to be able
to tell the difference after working out - after lifting weights
my jumps felt higher and easier - and if the muscle groups around
the joints are more developed, it takes stress off the joint itself.
They know this but we need to know what's safe and what are the
best exercises and how long to do them. I still don't think a
lot of girls are in the gym working out. But you can do exercises
to increase your strength and lift free weights, which are appropriate
for younger kids. They are trying to develop these things at the
Olympic training center.
IFS:
What kind of off-ice work can you do besides weights?
Thomas:
Doing off-ice conditioning - dance and ballet - had an effect
in making me a stronger skater and helped in preventing some of
these injuries. Most kids don't stretch properly, so learn how
to stretch before you skate. I think if you could study this long-term
you could show there is a decreased incidence in injuries if you
do regular conditioning programs. If you're strong and limber,
you're less likely to suffer injuries. Jumping technique is another
matter. My coach, Alex McGowan, emphasized jumping technique and
you can eliminate extra force on the body if you do proper technique.
When we were learning figures, my coach would skate around and
put our body in the position he wanted and he would throw us into
jumps to get our arms in right. Early on you need the building
blocks and if you don't have them early it is hard to get when
you're older.
IFS:
What else determines who wins a competition?
Thomas:
I know better than to try and predict an Olympics. I've been around
long enough to know you can't predict it. It comes down to the
psychology of it. You have the talent and goods and now you have
to go out and do it. Now I remember Michelle (Kwan) primed to
win Olympics in Nagano and she was isolated and not taking in
the experience. I had the same experience myself and at the time
I was on the verge of burnout. When I went to opening ceremonies,
I got motivated again. It was a great time but all the coaches
for the U.S. girls felt we should go home and train, which was
the last thing on my mind. One and a half hours a day at that
point was enough for me but our coaches felt we needed more ice
time.
In Nagano, I remember watching Tara (Lipinski) living it up. She
was the underdog and having a ball and I thought, she will win
because she is having the time of her life. The difference in
Michelle and Tara's programs was the emotion, and you can't practice
emotion - in fact, the more you do the program the less likely
you are to have emotion because it's monotonous. You can't practice
a once-in-a-lifetime experience. So go over there and enjoy yourself
and when it's time to compete, it's time to compete. Shut it off
and focus on one thing and be the best you can be.
IFS:
And your experience at Calgary in the 1988 Olympic Games?
Thomas:
I missed the boat. In 2002, Sarah Hughes used emotion - "Wow.
I'm here, and look at this." If you think too much about
winning, you're not thinking about doing your performance of your
life. I was thinking about winning, and I knew before my music
started that I wasn't ready. I thought, "Maybe my body will
just do it." But I never believed it. I trained so I figured
my body would do it and it didn't. It's mental. If your brain
is not right your body is not right.
But
life goes on. I don't stay awake at night worrying about it. People
say I got the bronze but I wanted the gold. For me I wouldn't
care about the bronze if I skated the program of my life. I know
I had it in me but I couldn't make it happen. I'm reminded about
it when the Olympics come around . When I write my book someday,
the title is going to be "In the Right Light It Looks Gold."
That's how life is.
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